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Log in or Sign upYou are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser . Truly Rowable Camping SailboatDiscussion in ' Sailboats ' started by Admiral Ackbar , May 12, 2012 . Admiral Ackbar AmphibianHi all, I am a longtime lurker, first time poster (thanks for many hours of informative entertainment as well as some truly epic squabbles). I'm looking for a sailboat for me and the misses to use without an engine on the Maine Islands Trail, the Great Lakes, etc., but I keep hitting a dead end. No Atlantic crossings with this one, but it will occasionally be used in some semi-unprotected waters by a semi-novice crew as a camp-cruiser. So, the issue for me has been finding the balance between a stable, ballasted, sailboat and a boat that can be rowed rather than motored for exercise/torture or when coming into port. I'm looking for as much of the following as possible: 1) Ballasted but light enough to row--probably some type of water ballast 2) 16 to 20 feet give or take a foot or two 3) Readily available on the used market for under $7K (i.e. a production boat) 4) Capable of sleeping two onboard with some degree of comfort 5) Preferably something with a headsail (mostly for practice as we would like to step up to a cutter someday) 6) Some sort of a cuddy or cabin would be great, but I'm also realistic in knowing the options will be limited if I also intend to row the thing sometimes The Sea Pearl 21 comes close, but I hate the rig and it will be tough for two to sleep onboard. Something like the Mud Hen 17 could work (maybe fill sand bags for ballast when needed), but it's pretty pricy on the used market for what it is. Any other ideas? Thanks, Eric Oh yeah . . . and an appropriate amount of built-in floatation is pretty much a must-have (yet oddly enough doesn't seem to be too easy to find). CutOnce Previous MemberI'd contact Graham Byrnes at B&B Yacht Designs - he specialises in your target usage. Since you are looking for a bargain, he might be able to point you to a used boat or a demo boat looking for a home. -- CutOnce bpw Senior MemberI have seen people rowing West Wight potters, seemed to go pretty well. Its amazing what you can row once up to speed, I regularly scull my 12,000 sailboat around. sharpii2 Senior Memberfor around 7k you might have to either build your own boat or retro fit an older existing boat. A 'weekender' type sailboat, about 14 to 18 ft long, with a cuddy cabin and a 'V' berth might meet your needs. Most have a 3/4 fractional rig which, with some ingenuity, can be raised and lowered even after the boat is launched. I used to routinely raise and lower the mast of my Siren 17, while it was in the water. With such a boat, your only job would be setting up a passable rowing station. I like the idea of a short sweep. This is a single oar that goes over one side and is kept quite short, to keep the boat turning moment down. The sweep must be used with the rudder and its efficiency is probably somewhere between that of a paddle and a proper set of oars. The advantage is the shorter sweep will be much easier to stow than a yulow or a proper set of much longer oars. oops. wrong button. Thank you all. I am looking a little more seriously at the Potter 15. It's not really ballasted other than the CB, but should be stable enough for its intended purpose. Potter owners have come up with some unique rowing stations for them, and I've read that they are actually pretty enjoyable to row. Plus, it doesn't hurt that they're available and inexpensive on the used market. DCockey Senior MemberAdmiral Ackbar said: ↑ Hi all, I am a longtime lurker, first time poster (thanks for many hours of informative entertainment as well as some truly epic squabbles). I'm looking for a sailboat for me and the misses to use without an engine on the Maine Islands Trail, the Great Lakes, etc., but I keep hitting a dead end. No Atlantic crossings with this one, but it will occasionally be used in some semi-unprotected waters by a semi-novice crew as a camp-cruiser. So, the issue for me has been finding the balance between a stable, ballasted, sailboat and a boat that can be rowed rather than motored for exercise/torture or when coming into port. I'm looking for as much of the following as possible: 1) Ballasted but light enough to row--probably some type of water ballast 2) 16 to 20 feet give or take a foot or two 3) Readily available on the used market for under $7K (i.e. a production boat) 4) Capable of sleeping two onboard with some degree of comfort 5) Preferably something with a headsail (mostly for practice as we would like to step up to a cutter someday) 6) Some sort of a cuddy or cabin would be great, but I'm also realistic in knowing the options will be limited if I also intend to row the thing sometimes The Sea Pearl 21 comes close, but I hate the rig and it will be tough for two to sleep onboard. Something like the Mud Hen 17 could work (maybe fill sand bags for ballast when needed), but it's pretty pricy on the used market for what it is. Any other ideas? Thanks, Eric Click to expand... DCockey said: ↑ Sleeping two onboard with some degree of comfort depends on: 1) Your personal definition of comfort. 2) Size of the people involved. 3) How much room each person needs around themselves. Think about how you will actually use the boat. If you will be sleeping aboard then where will you put the gear, etc that normally occupies the space used for sleeping? If you want water ballast consider modifying a boat to add it. For Maine Island Trail you either want a boat small and light enough to pull ashore or a boat you can sleep aboard. In some parts of the country there are a reasonable number of O'Day Daysailors on the used market. Consider a yuloh or single oar off the stern for sculling. Click to expand... Admiral Ackbar said: ↑ That said, I'm starting to lean towards a cabin-type boat such as a Potter 15, Montgomery 15 or 17, Com-Pac 16, etc. as a logical stepping stone towards getting a big cutter someday. I had some major reservations about how tough these would be to row, but reading about Larry Pardey's experiences rowing 9 tons plus at 2 knots put my fears to bed. Surely I can row against a reasonable current in something 1/10th that size. Some good reading: http://byyb.org/gaffrig/200510/article larry pardey.htm Click to expand... Interesting comments Cut Once. But both of those designs are raid boats. They are intended to be sailed along shore in sometimes challenging conditions. The Potter, and others of its ilk (such as the Siren 17 I used to own) have greater blue water pretensions. Using them as a day sailor is bound to disappoint. But using them as a training boat for a larger real blue water boat, makes a certain amount of sense, even after you factor in the faults you mentioned. The Siren 17, I used to own, for example, could sail at a consistent 5.5 kts, once I learned her ways and got her a drifter. The trimming problem you mentioned, I did experience. Once I got her to steer herself, I often went below to pee. I found she seemed to sail faster then. As a training boat for future blue water cruises, she may not have been too bad. If I had a significant other, at the time, who was into this, I would have set up a watch system, where one tends the boat while the other rests below. This way, the boat can sail 24 hours for an indefinite period of time. Perfect for training for future blue water voyages in more capable boats. Certainly, you can do the same with a larger raid style boat, and go faster too. But its not the same as having to work around a house, traversing narrow side decks, and having to sail your way out of trouble (the auxiliary is all but useless in anything but a dead calm). All are skills one must master, if one is to make a blue water voyage one a typical blue water capable monohull. It's interesting to note that Thom Firth Jones and his wife started cruising in raid style boats (a Hobie Cat and a sailing canoe), then went on to cruising multihulls, making a good number of nearly routine blue water voyages in them. But I think they would be first to admit that, for much longer voyages (further than Bermuda, say), they would need either a larger multihull (theirs were usually in the under 30 ft range) or a much pokier monohull. philSweet Senior MemberI wouldn't worry too much about trying to prepare for a future keel boat and do motorless cruising now. That's kind of a non-sequitur. If you want a starter keelboat cruiser, then get a small one with all the features/hassles and learn to deal with them on a small, inexpensive scale. You can choose from thousands of 26-28 auxiliary keelboats for under $5000 at the moment. 26-28 foot is a bit awkward because it's too small to carry a dink and too big to beach, but it will carry a small kayak okay. If you want to set one up just as you stated, I think a modified Core 17 would be very good. A bit of water ballast, more flare (smaller beam at WL), and mods to accommodate rowing. Generally depower the rig and lower hull resistance and make the power disparity between sail and oar somewhat smaller. The foils on all B&B's boats look to be a bit small to my eye. I wouldn't make them any smaller when I lessened the rig. And for crying out loud, use a half-wishbone for the sprits, not a closet pole. There seems to be a good bit of interest in this spurred on by the Everglades Challenge. I'm fiddling around with something similar at the moment as well. messabout Senior MemberConsider something like a Lightning or Thistle that is depowered. There are plenty of them around that can be bought cheaply enough. A few years back I bought a dereliict Thistle for $75. I depowered it with a free standing rig from a Finn, removed the characteristic Thistle gratings and some of the un needed gadgetry. It made a superior beach cruiser with enough interior space, rough water ability, a good turn of speed, easily trailerable, and it was a great gunk holer that could float in eight inches of water. I never rowed it but it would scoot along nicely with a sculling oar. Squidly-Diddly Senior MemberI had a thread about similar size multi-use boat, but mine was more of a motor sailer. Like a "lobster dory". I'll try to dig it up later. Here it is.... http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/bo...5hp-outboard-planing-sailing-dingy-39732.html I was thinking mostly using sail for tent for most camping, or using the micro-cuddy. More of a utility/work/hunting-fishing boat. scoob Junior MemberAdmiral Ackbar: have you looked at the SCAMP (small craft advisor magazine project)? http://smallcraftadvisor.com/component/content/article/361 she is a John Welsford design with some additions by Kees Prins. her sailing ability is amazing. she is stable and faster than you would think. i've sailed the boat and am very impressed. intentional, under sail, capsize test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZNWAkdkXM (notice how hard it is to get the boat to go over) this is an at the dock capsize test without the water ballast tank filled - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9lvJNVqnk the person doing the testing is Howard Rice. he is a life-long sailor, mostly in sailing ocean kayaks. Howard has rounded Cape Horn, twice, on a kayak. besides the 'build it yourself' kit, or from plans, available from Small Craft Advisor, Gig Harbor Boatworks is making a fiberglass SCAMP. -- you can find a good quality M15 or M17 on the used market for about $5000. price goes down depending on condition, outboard, trailer, etc. the M17 is a better boat, cabin wise, than the M15 for two people ... mainly because there is just enough sitting headroom on the quarter berths (need the two quarter berth version for two to sit below, not the galley version). the M17's weight is 1600# (if built by Jerry Montgomery) before you load people and stuff. the M15 is much lighter, about 800# if built by Jerry Montgomery, has a more comfortable v-berth and porta-potti setup than the M17 (no compression post), but no sitting headroom. the M15 also has positive flotation. i know some people that have tried to set up a rowing station or sculling oar on the M17 and M15 ... most never use the option after trying it once. most use a 2HP outboard on the M15 and a 4 or 5 HP outboard on the M17. -- there is also a new Jerry Montgomery design available ... no used boats on the market yet ... the Sage 17. Sage 17 is 1300#, has positive flotation (option), and has sitting headroom cabin for two on two seats and a compression post free v-berth. -- - No, create an account now.
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A boat with a BN of 1.6 or greater is a boat that will be reefed often in offshore cruising. Derek Harvey, "Multihulls for Cruising and Racing", International Marine, Camden, Maine, 1991, states that a BN of 1 is generally accepted as the dividing line between so-called slow and fast multihulls.
The SeaPearl 28 combines portability with 19 inch draft, an unstayed cat-ketch rig, water ballast and outboard power to make a unique product. In fact, the boat was designed around a charter service already using the Sea Pearl 21 as their base boat. The SeaPearl 28.
Great sailing boat. Sturdy under sail. Two light weight free standing carbon fiber masts that can be put up in 15 min. Large cabin with queen size berth. Stove & sink. ... This Marine Concepts Sea Pearl 28 : Added 08-Jul-2015 Marine Concepts Sailboats Marine Concepts 28s Colorado Marine Conceptss. Featured Sailboats: Home. Register & Post. View ...
Sea Pearl 28 is a 27′ 7″ / 8.4 m monohull sailboat designed by Ron Johnson and built by Marine Concepts starting in 1990. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL ...
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1 of 2. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of SEA PEARL 28. Built by Marine Concepts (USA) and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in 1990. It has a hull type of Keel/Cbrd. and LOA is 8.43. Its sail area/displacement ratio 19.28.
The Sea pearl 28 is a 27.66ft cat ketch (unstayed) designed by Ron Johnson and built in fiberglass by Marine Concepts (USA) since 1990. The Sea pearl 28 is a light sailboat which is a good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat. There is a short water supply range.
The Sea Pearl 28 is equipped with a centerboard keel. A centerboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters. The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.48 - 0.58 meter (1.57 - 1.87 ft) dependent on the load.
The 2001 Marine Concepts Sea Pearl 28 sailboat has a fiberglass hull and has an overall length of 27.67 feet (sometimes referred to as LOA). The width (or beam) of this craft is 80 inches. This boat is rigged as a Ketch. The sail area for the sailboat is 290 square feet. The displacement for the boat is approximately 4200 lbs.
Sea Pearl preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Sea Pearl used sailboats for sale by owner. Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats. Search. Avoid Fraud. ... 28' Sabre Yachts Sabre 28 MkI Trumansburg, New York Asking $12,000. 25' Catalina 25 Anderson SC, South Carolina Asking $6,000. 26' McGregor 26M
Superbly outfitted Cat-Ketch. This SeaPearl 28 is a 1991 sailboat built by Marine Concepts Sailboats in Tarpon Springs Ready to sail the shallow waters as well as big seas. Belle is a proven cruiser, with tours of the entire Gulf coast. She is 27 feet 10 inches overall. The draft with her stub keel is 19 inches with board up.
Sea Pearl Cat-Ketch 28 ft., 1991, Houston, Texas, $13,980, Price reduced 7/20/18 to $10,990, Taken off market 8/15/18 ... Scam Warnings: Texas Lakes: Sailboats Wanted: Contact: Free Sailboat Ad: Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . Sea Pearl Cat-Ketch 28 ft., 1991 Made by Marine Concepts in Tarpon Springs, FL Located ...
Go to. Sea Pearl 28, 1993. Cat Ketch. Most known as a Sea Pearl 28, they only built 18 and are now building Sea Pearl 21s. Builder is Marine Concepts. The boat is in excellent condition. It was build as a easy boat to trailer having 2 Mast that can be put up in 10 min each. They are light weight Carbon Fiber. No spreader, no shrouds free standing.
1991 Sea Pearl 28' cat-ketch Rare boat, one of only 16 made by Marine Concepts. Similar to a Rob Roy yawl. Super light, super strong carbon-fiber masts on a tabernacle can be raised/lowered single-handed! Current registration, title in hand Galvanized trailer 9.9 HP Nissan The hull and deck are in great shape, but the boat needs interior work.
The Rob Roy was then retired in favor of Johnson's Sea Pearls (Sea Pearl 21, Sea Pearl Tri-21, and Sea Pearl 28.) Rob Roy 23 Specifications Now the little cruiser is back, with the first new ones being launched in 1998, for "about what the last one we built cost—around $26,000 complete," Johnson said when we talked to him in late 1997.
Beam: 8.00'. Year: 1991. Model: Sea Pearl 28. Broker: Pier One Yacht Sales 1200 W Retta Esplanade #43 Punta Gorda, FL 33950 (941) 639-7777. ARCHIVED: This is a previously listed vessel and is no longer offered for sale If you would like assistance locating a similar vessel, Click Here to contact the listing broker.
1993 28' Marine Concepts 28 Sea Pearl sailboat for sale in Dry Dock Texas
Deltaville, VA 23043 | Norton's Yacht Sales, Inc. Check availability. <. 1. >. Find 28 Marine Concepts Seapearl 28 boats for sale near you, including boat prices, photos, and more. Locate Marine Concepts boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader!
Another day, another adventure for this thin-water sailor. Beach-cruising or sailing-camping boats come in all shapes and styles, ranging from one-design sail trainers like the Flying Scot, Hobie 16 and Wayfarer 16 to more cruising-oriented craft, like the Hobie Mirage trimaran series, the NorseBoat line or the UK-built Cornish Shrimperseries.
2 anchors with ground tackle. Much, Much more. Shoal Keel with centerboard - Draft is 5'6" board down and will sail in 20" with board up. Beam is 8' for ease of trailering and it weighs only 3800# [1200# Ballast] More Photos & Specifications available. SOLD. Seapearl 28, 1992, Salado, Texas, yacht for sale, sailboat for sale.
I'm looking for a sailboat for me and the misses to use without an engine on the Maine Islands Trail, the Great Lakes, etc., but I keep hitting a dead end. ... The Sea Pearl 21 comes close, but I hate the rig and it will be tough for two to sleep onboard. ... You can choose from thousands of 26-28 auxiliary keelboats for under $5000 at the ...
Sea Pearl Sailboat pictures, a collection of Sea Pearl sailboats with specifications and photos. Sea Pearl Sailboat Photo Gallery. Home: Lessons: Rentals: How To: Forums: ... SEA PEARL 28. 7/16/18, 1991 Sea Pearl Cat-Ketch 28 ft, Houston, Texas, $10,990: 9/14/14, 1991 Sea Pearl 28, Stone Mountain, Georgia, $15,000:
SeaPearl 28, 1993. Price $21,500.00. Location Kerr Lake, NC. Trailerable unstayed cat ketch rig with carbon fiber masts. A shallow draft centerboarder with very comfortable accomodations. Fresh water sailed and meticulously maintained for the past 18 years. LOA 27'8". LWL 24'7". Beam 8'00".