| Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. | 11-02-2018, 09:49 | | Boat: Dolphin 460, 14m | to cross the Atlantic and rest in the . I ended up a new Dolphin 460 cat in 2007 and I am still living on her 9 to 10 months of the year. In my opinion, for me, I have the best Ocean going liveabord great sailing the I could afford. An equally priced could never have given me the sailing ability and comfort that a cat can deliver; in my opinion. Go rent a cat one week and then switch to a the next and then look for your new/used liveabord/cruising boat. Good luck and happy cruising. | | | 11-02-2018, 10:41 | | Boat: Pogo 10,50 | 44, I can mostly remember the loud made by the aft bulkhead against the stairs when rolling at night, didn't get much sleep down under. Newer ones smell like glue. Pretty typical production boat otherwise | | | 11-02-2018, 10:54 | | Boat: Bavaria 40 | 40. It is very and handles a rough gale fairly well as seen in this video: | | 11-02-2018, 11:03 | | Boat: Bavaria Vision 44 | based, also a pilot, also retired to the cruising life (sort of). I guess I'm just a few years ahead of you! We bought a new Vision 44 in 2007, delivered & commissioned in (first Vision series in , I believe). Since then we've sailed over 30,000 miles to SE , , and the . Presently back in NZ on our third visit. As mentioned by others, there's a fair bit of needs to go into any boat to make her ready for protracted cruising. Not just factory production like Bavaria and . And we've certainly discovered and addressed weaknesses in our boat during our 10 yrs & 30,000 nm - none of them major, though. That said, we're very happy with our Vision. She's a lot of boat for her size (the is more like a 50-footer), she's fast (6 days NZ-Tonga and 6 days Fiji-NZ last year) and she didn't break the bank. Not sure I'd want to tot up all the $$$ spent since new, though, on things like equipping to Cat 1, , gen-set, , , , , , , aircon (which we seldom use), etc, etc. Bear all that in mind when you're costing the . I would probably recommend the Vision series rather than the Cruiser, as they have beefier rig, etc. If ex-charter, you'd want a proper done. Why don't you PM me and I can add details where necessary. Best of luck - you won't regret it! | | | 11-02-2018, 11:21 | | Boat: Moana 33 | on the market, however, dropping half a million on a boat just isn't within our reach yet. ... | 11-02-2018, 11:46 | | | to . Very nice roomy and comfortable in the more sheltered areas. Pushing her hard to Windward in boisterous conditions is like any boat hard going. There was obviously a lot of twisting going on as looking at the span of heaving up and down around 2 inches as she coped was interesting. She could slam really hard into waves and come off them with a big thump. In and made it all easy going for handing one man watches in fact we were rarely on together except for changing watches. A great boat downwind as all boats are. Very short on tankage but that's not hard to fix. The is the same as all the others so it comes down to the . After we docked I went over the , especially the span of around 3m of unsupported deck and found no stress marks (spider cracks) at all. She was well balanced, buoyant and well ballasted and her behaviour was predictable so that mix is good. I think it could be all about how much one wants to pay for their particular compromise. Newer is better of course. Cheers | | | 11-02-2018, 14:22 | | Boat: Sun Odyssey 32 & Bavaria 38 | next year . We have found her very , although have only sailed around the western , , and Sardinia. We have has a few slogs through the Bonifacio straights, in force 6 - 8 with quite big sea, quite a bit of slamming! Although we had an issue, with loss of , we think due to under quite a bit, the boat always felt solid and safe. Inside there is lots of space, with solid everywhere, rather than later vaneer. Sailing performance is very good, including main, compared to slab reef and stack pack on our SO32, which also feels to be much lighter build. Dont know about the newer Bavarias, but there are plenty around! Back to Sardinia in May | | | 11-02-2018, 14:34 | | Boat: Bavaria 38 Cruiser, 12meters, 2004 | technician for Bavarias in his home country. Their enthusiasm and confidence in Bavarias after travelling half way helped give us the confidence to buy one. We had always admired various Bavarias that we'd seen. Nice lines, I really like that there are very few hard corners on the boat. May seem a small thing but when you take that inevitable uncontrollable lurch and the boat brings you up short, corners take on a whole new meaning. Our boat doesn't look much different to when we first bought it, though I realize other commitments mean it has had relatively light use lately. Heavy use would of course change that. I find it delightful to sail and handle, but then my sample size is restricted to four yachts! Have chartered a , owned an H28, chartered a Neolex 25 and the Bav. Speaking with others who have sailed on ocean passages with them, they definitely flex, and can be noisy below deck as the video seen above amply demonstrates, though I think his sail trimming was contributing to the rather a lot. Having rather flat sections, the boat will pound coming off waves and so a comfortable angle to the wave set needs to be found upwind. We've been in some steep and largish seas with her and found it comfortable and dry, except on one trip out to Great Barrier Island when raining heavily and quite a mixed up seaway, on that occasion all the leaked and in hindsight it was probably only the flexing and the course I had set. We have had no issues with them since. As others have said they are a lighter boat, designed primarily for the market, but having said that with some upgrading they do get used commonly for ocean passages. No doubt as the marque has evolved, some models prove better than others for ocean use. Just read on Bavaria forum how a couple of Bavaria's rounded the notorious Cape Horn. Admittedly practically anything can do this given benign conditions, but it still takes a deal of confidence in your boat to even consider it as conditions change so rapidly there. When we bought ours the stressed that we "sail it upright", in other words angle of heel is the determining factor for the amount of sail we carry and the course in relation to the conditions gives the best results. is definitely great when contemplating the lighter found vessells. Though we all get caught in heavy sooner or later, so long as it is the exception rather than the , I think these boats have proven themselves. We took a guy out on our boat who had made Pacific crossings with the traditional , heavy as, plodder sort of yacht which shall remain unnamed and he imagined with a Bavaria as akin to riding a surfboard, It was a bit galling when I remembered his own boat had no or and they used a 3hr watch system and were shorthanded. When we were out in the bay menacing grey clouds built up and he insisted we drop all , to appease him we motored but it was obvious he thought the boat would fall over with the slightest breeze. Truth be told he'd never sailed in this sort of boat. | | | 11-02-2018, 14:44 | | Boat: Jeanneau 371 | a Moody to see if a yacht would suit our needs. It did, easy to drive and park even in a tight marina thanks to the fin and blade . Sailed very well even in light winds and was very well mannered yacht. We nearly bought it but the cost was just beyond our . To be honest I don't think you will go far wrong with any of the European yachts. Pete | 11-02-2018, 17:27 | | Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 52.2 | in a 39ft, others that are couples cruising the of Aus. When we were looking to buy, we noticed the European production boats build before the GFC tended, in general, to have a slightly better build quality than the newer boats. | | | 11-02-2018, 17:53 | | Boat: Van Dam Nordia 49' | has been a horror. The first problem was leaking into the from the built in fresh water . Next came leaking into the from the built in . the tanks are sealed under the floor with no way to access them other than cutting a into the floor and to do that you would need to have detailed plans of the boat or risk doing even more damage. the sales company in where it was purchased has been of no help and Bavaria has been dragging their feet in getting anyone out to see the boat. Its stranded in the Canary Islands as he was on his way to the when the problem developed. Now he can't go back or forward and need to be done in the island. He's furious and I can't blame him for that. If you find something cool and and your not going to need factory support then maybe it will be ok. As for me I have sworn off boats there are just too many great older well made and boats out there looking for homes to bother with them. Good luck in your search and keep safe. Ben | | | 11-02-2018, 18:39 | | Boat: Bavaria 38 Cruiser, 12meters, 2004 | but in Sloviinia. Built to a price, with good deck rig ETC. but lacked attention to the finish that the French production yachts have. Big boats built to a price. | 11-02-2018, 20:23 | | | Sun Odyssey 54DS, however, I think that's probably too much boat for the two of us. Unfortunately, this isn't an early for us, just a mid-career break, so we'd have to also be able to onsell the boat either in or Hong Kong when we are forced back to . | | | 11-02-2018, 23:24 | | | 11-02-2018, 23:30 | | | in a 39ft, others that are couples cruising the of Aus. 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- April 26, 2021
Competition is hot for high-volume cruisers, but have Bavaria built a boat that is fun to sail as well as spacious and affordable? Theo Stocker took her for a spin to find out Product OverviewBavaria c38. - Fun and engaging to sail
- Vast amounts of space
- A lot of boat for your money
- Limited stowage in 3-cabin version
- Mainsheet lacked power
- Some exposed systems in lockers
Manufacturer:Price as reviewed:. A job worth doing is worth doing properly, so the saying goes. There’s no doubt that Bavaria have committed wholeheartedly to the concept behind their new C38 and the result is a boat fully confident in its identity. That’s a good job, given the level of competition the C38 will be up against in the 37-38ft production cruiser market. This boat aims to do three things: create the absolute maximum amount of space on deck and below from the available waterline length; be enjoyable and engaging to sail, if not a race boat; and give a potential buyer the maximum bang for their buck. In practice, the design has added significant volume in both the bow and the stern, introduced a deeper, rounder forefoot to reduce slamming, and has deepened the single rudder, which, coupled with the bow thruster, should give plenty of control in harbour and underway. A first look at the boat reveals a few significant details. Firstly, her waterline takes up almost her entire length, with virtually no overhangs at the ends. Then there are the chines. This is only the second Bavaria to have hull chines, and they are used to take the significant beam, which is carried all the way aft, down to the water, creating more volume in the aft cabins, as well as providing power to the hull form. Next, there’s the huge bluff bow and vertical stem, again multiplying the volume in the forward cabin. Pretty it might not be, but there’s a certain purposeful muscularity to it. Bavaria Yachts, the company, gained new owners in 2018, and they’ve been quick to make a fresh start, starting with a plan to update the entire range. Having moved from design house J&J to Cossutti Design, the C38 is the latest, smallest boat in the new lineup. The strongly chined hull shape makes a bold statement about that new direction. I was keen to see how this added up on the water. TEST VERDICT If you looked at this yacht and thought the vast volume would make her a poor sailer, you would be mistaken. I was very pleasantly surprised at how much fun we had sailing her. The feel on the helm was direct, responsive and engaging; this boat is fun to sail. She wasn’t twitchy even when overpressed and gave plenty of warning before the rudder started to lose grip. This boat reminds you of why a single rudder makes sense, and is deep enough that she has plenty of grip even when heeled, which is the main reason wide-sterned boats have twin rudders. The benefits when handling in harbour are huge, given that manoeuvring and mooring is the most stressful part of any cruise for most owners. Granted, the mainsheet purchase needs a bit of improvement, but if I were buying this boat, I’d go for the more easily handled furling main and self-tacking jib, with the Code Zero for the extra sail area to keep the boat moving off the wind. This would seem to fit with the ethos of simple and fun sailing that this boat ascribes to. WOULD SHE SUIT YOU AND YOUR CREW? I’d imagine this boat will prove popular with sailing schools and charter companies, but if you’re after maximum boat for your buck for family coastal cruising, this is definitely worth a look too. The idea of having three king-sized beds on what is really a 36-foot hull is staggering. You’d have to weigh up whether you want an ensuite owner’s head enough to sacrifice some of this bed space in the forward cabin, but given the layout options, there seems little reason to go for the two-cabin rather than three-cabin layout. If you’re not using the third you could still use it for the stowage you’d be missing out on. Given the price point of this boat, the quality of finish was really very good, and the resurrected Bavaria has upped its game several notches. Arguably, the C38 could now be the boat to beat in this size sector and you’ll struggle to get more new boat for your money than this. Enjoyed reading this? A subscription to Yachting Monthly magazine costs around 40% less than the cover price . Print and digital editions are available through Magazines Direct – where you can also find the latest deals . YM is packed with information to help you get the most from your time on the water. - Take your seamanship to the next level with tips, advice and skills from our experts
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the Bavaria saga. I am one of those Bavaria owners, bought new in 2001 and agree with just about everything that John (swagman) wrote. One thing to look at are the changes in the Bavarias over the years. Most feel that BAV quality over the years is on the decline as prices dictate ever more what rolls out the front door.
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Join Date: Apr 2015. Location: Newhaven, UK. Boat: Bavaria 36'. Posts: 359. Re: Opinions on Bavaria Yachts. The Bavaria 36 in the UK was used extensively as a charter boat and school boat, I've owned one for 12 years (never raced except gently by me!) I have found it roomy, comfortable and easy to sail.
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I sailed on a 2006 Bavaria 46 for two months in 2016, eventually crossing the Atlantic to the Caribbean. This was an ex charter but well maintained. We a had a couple storms with 50kt winds and I felt very safe. The boat did tend to shudder when getting above 7kts.
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The 2003 & 2006 are 38ft. I own the 2-cabin owner version, with deep keel, tall rig and larger engine option (Volvo 55 hp). This boat has impressed me. Quality of wood work, of rigging (Selden), winches (Harken), etc. everything is well build. You can watch Bavaria's production videos on YouTube to convince you.
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I would not expect a newer boat to have so many issues paticularly issues that cannot be solved. Bavaria has always sent me back to the dealer and the dealer has been somewhat helpful. I am slowly working to solve the problems at great expense (fuel guage $250.00) and I wait months for the parts . 16-09-2012, 05:06.
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Built to a price, with good deck gear rig ETC. but lacked attention to the finish that the French production yachts have. Big boats built to a price. BAVARIA YACHTS - 100% MADE IN GERMANY "BAVARIA YACHTS has been known since its founding as an innovation leader in serial yacht manufacturing.
Bavaria Yachts, the company, gained new owners in 2018, and they've been quick to make a fresh start, starting with a plan to update the entire range. Having moved from design house J&J to Cossutti Design, the C38 is the latest, smallest boat in the new lineup. The strongly chined hull shape makes a bold statement about that new direction.